Unfolding Learning Societies

18 – 22 December 2002

Udaipur, RAJASTHAN, INDIA

 

 

CO-HOSTED BY:

Shikshantar

Pioneers of Change

Abhivyakti

Institute for Development Studies and Practices

Unesco

 

 

Table of Contents

Tribute to Ivan Illich

What Do We Mean by Unfolding Learning Societies?

Reflections on Learning

Reflections on Schooling

Redefining Guru

Rethinking Labels

Our Local Languages

Multiple Modes of Expression

Reuniting Action and Reflection

 

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Welcome Co-Creators!

We’d like to welcome you to the Unfolding Learning Societies Conference in Udaipur.

 This pre-conference document brings together elements of a dialogue that took place online prior to this conference.

 Here you will find questions, observations and contemplation on many of the themes that we will be working with over the coming few days. You will also find thoughts and ideas from people who could not be with us. Our hope is that many of these voices stay with us and resonate throughout our time together.

 We look forward to expanding our conversations during the conference and beyond.

 Best wishes,

Your fellow co-creators at...

Abhivyakti, IDSP, Pioneers of Change, Shikshantar & UNESCO

 

  

Tribute to Ivan Illich (1926-2002)

 “Many students, especially those who are poor, intuitively know what the schools do for them. They school them to confuse process and substance. Once these become blurred, a new logic is assumed: the more treatment there is, the better are the results; or, escalation leads to success. The pupil is thereby “schooled” to confuse teaching with learning, grade advancement with education, a diploma with competence, and fluency with the ability to say something new. His imagination is “schooled” to accept service in place of value. Medical treatment is mistaken for health care, social work for the improvement of community life, police protection for safety, military poise for national security, the rat race for productive work. Health, learning, dignity, independence, and creative endeavour are defined as little more than the performance of the institutions which claim to serve these ends, and their improvement is made to depend on allocating more resources to the management of hospitals, schools, and other agencies in question.”

- Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society (1973: 9)

 

From Bill Ellis

 Too many people take Deschooling Society as being primarily about schools. It is, like most of Illich’s books, more about society. In his view, society is like school and should be deschooled. Schools program students and instill in them a need to programmed for the rest of their lives.


Society needed deschooling because it was a mime of the school system that it engendered, and that engendered it. In our current society individuals are expected to work in dull and stultifying jobs for future rewards. This they are trained to do in schools. They go to school so that they can get a job to work for future rewards. By deschooling, Illich did not mean taking schooling into the home, nor did he mean “free schools” in which a curricula was set by the students. Schooling of any kind that limited a person’s capacity and desire to self-learn was detrimental to the living a full life by that person.


All life, according to Illich, should be “convivial.” That is it should be lived in joyous collaboration with friends and colleagues. Learning and work alike should be fun and fulfilling. They should be entered into as, and not differentiated from, play and recreation. A society that does not create that kind of convivial learning and living is not living up to, nor fulfilling the potential of, humanity.


In later works, like Tools for Conviviality, and Shadow Work, Illich developed further the theme of what he meant by living the good life. He took “good” in both of its connotations — good as moral, and good as a pleasing. “Vernacular” was the word Illich used to express the good life. The vernacular is the simple, the local, the communal. Every human and every community has its own natural concept of the vernacular. It is wrapped up in being a human. It is what a person can do themselves in the place they are at the time. It is without dependence of external assistance.


The bicycle was the hardware example Illich often used to exemplify the vernacular. The bicycle extends one’s own capability and efforts for transportation. It needs no massive outside system beyond that its operator’s control. The automobile, on the other hand, is not only a complex apparatus requiring a complex outside system, but it also requires more work and effort than it produces in transportation. If you take into account all the hours you spend to buy a car, to purchase gas and tires, to pay taxes for the road, to insure and license it, to clean up its pollution, and pay for all of the other costs, your rate of travel is less than that of a bicycle. That doesn’t count the hours, the costs, or the frustration spent in traffic jams and accidents.

 

In Medical Nemesis, Illich took the same concept to the medical system, showing that not only did the medical system not cure ills, but in fact created them.  In every aspects of our lives, conviviality and the vernacular have been overwhelmed and diminished by what Illich called the “disabling professions.” The law professions have increased crime, the professional economists have created scarcity and poverty, the teaching profession has dumbed us down, the farming profession has made hunger. With this loss of the vernacular has come the loss of the family and the community. The single goal of humans has become to “make it” in a materialistic global economy.


In his most recent essays, Illich has brought his concepts to a fitting climax. An essay “The Cultivation of Conspiracy” (in The Challenge of Ivan Illich, a 2002 book edited by Lee Honacki and Carl Mitcham) discusses friendship. The friendship Illich writes of is not just that of being kind and cooperative to your neighbors. It is a deeper ‘conspiriatio’. “Con - spiriatio” is breathing together. But breathing is not merely expelling air. It is about the breath of life — the soul. ‘Conspiriatio’ is the melding of one’s inner being with others.... This conspiratio, or welding of souls, (although Illich, a former priest, doesn’t us the word soul) is the root of the vernacular and of the convivial.

 - Bill Ellis is the coordinator of A Coalition for Self-Learning <www.creatinglearningcommunities.org>

 

Remembering Ivan Illich...

 

From Maria Rortiz

Many of my teachers made me, not laugh, but smile when I asked something about Illich, because they always went on talking trying to scare us with the “terrible” and “mean” ideas of Illich. It’s incredible how superficial they were.

 

From Kishore Saint

Ivan Illich, with whom I had the opportunity to work briefly in 1971 at CIDOC, Cuernavaca... Both Illich and Freire, as also Gandhi, have suffered through distorted instrumental interpretations which can be traced to the meta-narratives of the state and capital. This article goes to the source of the critique of schooling, and the system that maintains and extends it into society, but is unable to overwhelm or ‘school’ the human society/communities/spirit. Indeed, this conversation on the internet and upcoming conference in Udaipur have the potential to make history through co-inspiration, an inner turning of the spirit or ‘inquilab’, ‘navchetana’, a new enlightenment, towards a resolve by the participants to move beyond ‘schooling’ into vernacular/community/nature spaces and cultures and create the possibility of a different future for humankind and the earth...

 

From Zaid Hassan

Illich entered my life recently, through his ideas and through stories of his life told by his friends. I heard a story told about him, where a friend of his was diagnosed with a serious illness. Illich was lecturing somewhere at the time. He dropped all his work, got on a plane and nursed his friend for many months, until she passed away. I’ve heard many such stories about Illich and they conclude with ‘that’s Illich for you.’ These stories give his ideas a depth and an honesty that I’ve rarely experienced with people who think for a living. All too often there is a serious dichotomy between words and actions. Illich bought the two together in a unity rarely seen. Since the news of his death I find myself looking at the sky, the sun and the grass in a slightly different way. In life, his ideas travelled throughout the world, and now his physical essence, through nature’s cycles, will travel through the world.   A new pilgrimage has begun.

 

From Pat Farenga

Experiencing Ivan dying as this learning society group is coming together is interesting, and inspiring. Ivan spread many seeds in many places throughout his life, and I¹m grateful that some, such as yours, are sprouting!

 

Share your own tribute to Illich....

  

Illich influenced the thinking of John Holt, John Taylor Gatto and many others, and had some thought provoking ideas about health care and other social issues. You can read more about Illich at these websites:

http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ira/illich/
http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-illic.htm
http://philosophy.la.psu.edu/illich/profile.html

Most of Illich’s books are on line and can be read or downloaded. “Deschooling Society” is on: http://philosophy.la.psu.edu/illich/deschool/intro.html  

 

 We would like to dedicate this pre-conference publication to the life and work of Ivan Illich. 

His contribution to the unfolding of learning societies is immeasurable, and he will be greatly missed by all of us.

 

 WHAT DO WE MEAN BY ‘UNFOLDING LEARNING SOCIETIES’?

 Understanding Learning Societies

From: Kishore Saint

All living is learning and all living societies are learning societies. They cannot be otherwise. We are all born and grow up in learning societies. In this sense learning is a natural, ongoing process co-terminus with living. It happens unconsciously and intentionally, with purpose and without purpose and in a variety of ways and settings. It is personal as well as social. So what do we mean by ‘unfolding learning societies’? Are we talking about the unfolding of something that is wrapped up, suppressed or potent like a bud or seed, something waiting to happen? What does this mean in today’s context?

 

From: Alok Singh

I completely agree that living societies are learning societies. I also think there’s a value in further nurturing curiosity outside of immediate living. Creating spaces, opportunities, moments for enhancing and nurturing curiosity (and through that, bringing out critical questions, seeing new possible futures through art, etc.) is part of what I see as the point of ‘learning societies’.

 

From: Shah Jahan Baloch

I consider myself a very fortunate learner, because I am engaged with different communities not only as co-learner in critical discourse on prevailing development paradigms at IDSP, but in creating alternative community based actions of community self-empowerment.  So I have tremendous opportunities to share with learners the concepts, new ideas to create learning societies through enriching the dialogue and participatory actions. Unfolding learning societies requires conceptual clarity and trust in communities the challenge is 1) to produce more local content in local languages on education learning and development 2) using innovative approaches of communication with different sections of society 3) preservation of local wisdom.

 

Challenging Development

From Munir Fasheh

The logic embedded in universal thinking naturally leads to the belief that one person/ people/ nation/ country/ religion/ culture can be absolutely better than another (according to some supposedly universal measure!) and, thus, can impose their ideas and ways on the world at large. The belief that one’s ideas and ways are universal or the best is not new. What is new (and exclusively characteristic of western civilization) is the successful diffusion/ dissemination, through “universal” tools (softly or coercively), certain beliefs and practices as universal. The most effective tool has been education as it has been conceived and practiced at least during the past 300 years - through a curriculum taught to all students, and through standards, measures, concepts and meanings that are assumed to be universal. 

 

From Claude Alvares

I have worked as an environmentalist for 25 years but have now decided to work in education as well. The problem begins at the school, where we disconnect children from nature and keep them in that state for fifteen to twenty years. We take them out of nature, imprison them in concrete boxes, teach them false associations between printed texts and the real world, and do much worse besides... After that, it becomes difficult to restore a loving relationship with nature. For people like us from a rich civilisation like India, we are also disconnected from our traditions, languages and civilisational ideals.

 

From Arif Tabassum

Development has nothing to do for the prosperity of humans. When we look back in the history of last five hundred years, we can easily find the roots of today’s development there. We know that our continents (Asia, Latin America, Africa) were brutally exploited in the name of “civilizing them”. After World War II, strategies of exploitation sharpened the process of alienating people from their indigenous cultures, resources and creativities to convert them in consumers. They used term ‘Development’ this time, through which they are maintaining their objectives of exploitation on cultural, social and economic level till the day. The exploitation process is continued through the so-called development workers. The vested interests of these development workers are connected with the promotion of this ‘development’. Their survival is conditioned with conventional development paradigm, their luxurious life is maintained with it. How can they deny it? It is so painful for them, when someone criticises their direction.

 

From KB Jinan

Development is the mantra of the interventionist agencies, and the only issue that they seem to comprehend is economics. Issues related to the culture, lifestyle and ethos of artisan communities are not relevant to most of these agencies, whether they be governmental or nongovernmental.

 

From Jason Fernandes

Something that has been troubling me for some time in my interaction with this world of development. the problem as I see it, and as was so rightly put forward (pardon me for not remembering who!) is the obsession we have with solutions. As I see it the problem emerges with the solution, for then we start the grand process of boxing realities and imposing it on “victims” and those “crying out for help”.

 

From Lisa Aubrey

I am really happy that we are having this discussion.  This is healing.  I am often discouraged, frustrated, distressed, angered by the political, social, economic, cultural arrogance of the World Bank, IMF, WTO, Washington Consensus.  And I am frustrated because alone I feel so powerless vis-à-vis these hegemons.  My writing and teaching are therapy, but this is not enough.  I want to do more.  I need to do more. And honestly, I am fed up with polite bourgeois (pseudo)intellectual discussions with neo-liberals who criminalize the victims of their blood-sucking ideologies and policies.   They are but vampires whose motive is to ensure underdevelopment at any cost to Global South and Southern people (who are ontologically least like them). Yet we are their “Historical Development Project” and we are so unappreciative.  HA!

 

From Zaid Hassan

There is no real way that someone who is deeply entrenched in the Western paradigm, who does not question its foundations, with its core elements of State, Science (& Tech), Market and so on, will ever recognise the legitimacy of solutions that other paradigms propose for any problem - unless they are legitimised through a ‘translation’ into the language of the Western paradigm. What does it mean to ‘translate’ a practice into the Western paradigm so that it gains legitimacy? If, for example, a particular herb, can be subjected to the tests of Science, if a particular proposal can be written in terms of a Cost Benefit Analysis; if ‘Evidence’ in the empirical, rational sense can be provided around a practice to demonstrate it is ‘useful’ then it will be accepted.

 

In this instance, it struck me, that there’s no point arguing or trying to prove that development is harmful. Rather the case must be made that the practitioner of the Western paradigm cannot legitimately tell the practitioner of another paradigm how to live (to put it mildly). The case must be made that the issue is one of simple imperialism and of ‘the right to self-determination’. Gandhi did this, he appealed to the highest moral values of the British paradigm, using their language, while on the other hand living, experimenting and creating a uniquely Indian paradigm, that of swaraj. If we are to ‘unfold learning societies’ then we must figure out how to create the freedom to do so without the very damaging interference of the Western paradigm.

 

From Vachel Miller

First, it’s interesting to watch how little the planning for such projects attends to issues of learning. There’s no time to talk about how learning is happening in rural Afghanistan and how learning is not happening. There’s no time to talk about what people know, want to know, don’t know, and what they’ve learned or not learned in the absence of schools. There’s no time to talk about other ways of supporting learning, besides simply getting the system back in gear. Now, perhaps the lack of discussion about learning is unique to this project, because it’s being put together so quickly. I don’t know; I haven’t actually had much experience in the big world of international educational development projects. But I know there’s a general problem here — in our rush to do projects, international education people often seem to forget to talk and think about learning.

 

From Ashraf Patel

How to develop effective learning spaces with communities to impact issues related to violence?  Here I am taking of violence in the wider sense, even the fact that in times of plenty, where warehouses of this country are overflowing, there are still reports of starvation deaths in Baran. There are so many completely idiotic things happening all around us...

 

From Achyut Das

We cannot but admit that existence for some people is full of confrontations and struggles. The number of these people are rising everyday after the forces of globalisations are unleashed. The digital divide has become sharper and the inequalities have become much more glaring. There is a process of dehumanisation everywhere.

 

From Zaid Hassan

... modern help is ‘deeply calculating’ and if you think of all the analysis and data gathering that goes into the delivery of development solutions then there is something perverse about a notion of help that rests of analysis - hardly unconditional! ... More recently other authors such as Negri and Hardt (in “Empire”) have also argued that help has been co-opted and is used as a mechanism for the delivery of power, which they refer to as part of the ‘arsenal of legitimate force for imperial intervention’ which precedes armed intervention.

 

The question we are left with is who defines help? Is it the helper or the person who needs help? The question is deeply relevant not just to development in the third world but also to interventions by the State in tackling issues such as poverty alleviation or educational disengagement. Who decides when help is needed?

 

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“We started out focused on being a learning space structured around programmes, and we have recently completed a three month residential experimental programme with 15 young people from rural areas and high density urban townships. We lived our way into many wonderful answers, and though three months is a short time, we did create a community in that time – though a temporal one.  And most importantly I think all of us learned the value of community and collaboration. There was a real sense of joyful surprise as the ‘students’ began to realize that they had things to learn from each other, and a wonderful creativity that was unleashed when they also realized that we – the facilitators – did not have all the answers and needed their help and participation for many elements of bringing the village to life.”

Marianne Knuth

 

“What really struck me was the question – ‘What is a human being?’ Are we animal, vegetable or mineral? These concepts become the basis for creating a foundation for the development of attitudes supportive to the realisation of human dignity. After reading this book, I realised how profound is this subject of a simple thing as ‘human dignity’. Attending to symptoms, addressing salient causes of poverty, prejudice, abuse and every other form of inequality and violence we can bring about change, but attending to root causes is also important, may be we can create meaningful social and economic transformation.

Sugandhi Baliga

 

 

“One day somebody asked me a question, “ Can you share an experience from which you learnt something?” This was a difficult yet exciting question for me. When I reflected on it I realised that learning was very natural and spontaneous process for me. All the experiences were learning experiences for me. But that question made me very conscious and my learning process also became very conscious. This criticality and reflection helped me discover myself, my relationships with my world and became part of my work while dealing with MEDIA in Abhivyakti.”

Sujata Babar

 

 

“The South African education transformation process is bold and visionary, though fraught with all manner of issue, challenges and philosophical debate, regarding appropriacy of (schooling) model, timing, government/community capacity and programme sustainability, “more of the same” syndrome, etc. Having just emerged from an exceptionally perverse social order though resisting the slash and burn alternative, the new authorities are somewhat mired in the treacherous policy/practice quicksands of social change. I look forward to Udaipur and to sharing with you some of perspectives and quandaries in this regard in the near future.”

Gordon Naidoo

 

“i am at a turning point in my life and need to decide which way to go. working in an extremely hierarchical and bureaucratic organisation, i realise it is not the place for a person like me who wishes to live life on her own terms. but in the past few years, i have made so many compromises for marriage, for family, for being “successful” that i no longer know what life on my own terms means. is it defying a boss who is deliberately obstructing work, or is the challenge in learning to play her game - but then how does one win while keeping one’s spirit and the spirit of one’s work intact.”

Tasqeen Machhiwala

 

 

“My energy comes from organic farming, engaging in creative expression with children of all ages, exploring new partnerships with people from all over the world, and from having my 80-year-old grandmother, my 85-year-old grandfather, my 29-year-old sister-in-law, my 33-year-old brother, and my 8-month old niece together with me in the same house.  The dynamic combination of all of these experiences has my heart, body, mind and soul all working overtime!” 

Shilpa Jain

 

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REFLECTIONS ON LEARNING

 

The Essence of Study

Late one night, Reb Dov Ber (the “Mitler Rebbe” of Chabad) was up studying Torah in his parents’ house in Liadi. Suddenly, there was a knock on his chamber door, and his father, Rabbi Shneur Zalman, the first Rebbe of Chabad, walked in. Reb Dov Ber stood in respect.

“My son, what were you studying just now?”

“I was studying the kabbalistic writings of the Arizal, father,” Reb Dov Ber replied.

“Do you find them profound?” Reb Shneur Zalman asked.

“Father, they contain the secrets of the universe.”

“And do they uplift you?”

“When I study them, I feel as if I were standing before the Supernal Assembly.”

His father paused. “My son, several minutes ago, on the floor just below you, a baby fell out of its crib and was crying. I was upstairs, also studying. But when I heard it cry, I ran downstairs to help, for I was sure that you were asleep . . . . No matter how profound and uplifting is the study of Torah, one must never become so engaged that he fails to hear the cries of another human being.”

(C) Eliezer Shore, Bas Ayin, www.shemayisrael.com/shavous/chassidic_stories.htm

(shared by Jan Visser)

 

What is learning? How do we learn?

From Manish Jain

- Meaningful learning takes place in the context of authentic practice

- Meaningful learning involves linking the hands, heart and mind (working with one’s hands is critical)

- Meaningful learning involves dialogue, particularly the ability to listen in different ways

- Being in close and continuous interaction with nature and its processes/cycles is essential for understanding oneself and the world

 

From Raj Sethia

From a culture of teaching and passive information acquisition, we should actively promote a culture of life-long learning which nurtures flexible learning processes of questioning, analysing, feeling, reflecting, owning knowledge, negotiating, doing, self-motivation, patience, communication, collaboration, creativity, self-discipline, tackling stress, dealing with conflict and self-confidence...

 

From Ashraf Patel

To me, learning is about breaking boundaries and creating personal and social spaces for exchange. Learning to me is an adventure - which everyone must have a right to go on. Learning is about change - it cannot be passive. Learning to me is value loaded - it must bring about peace.

 

From Jason Fernandes

Learning as a process of looking beyond what is presented to ... us by the System. Looking beyond to what exists, to the possibilities of what could. To broadening my experience base, and moving out of ruts that I may have been. Ruts of class, of cultures I have grown up with, of urban settings etc.

From KB Jinan

Working with rural tribal people has shown me altogether a different process of learning. Here learning is part and parcel of your life.  There is no alienation nor compartmentalization. Learning, playing, growing up, is all well integrated... They are always experimenting, observing and learning from the experience. But of course this open-ended-ness is possible only in a process-oriented or intuitive culture. Children in all cultures learn using this process. It is only when they enter formal schools they become product-oriented. This happens even to children in so-called alternative schools because the alternatives are searched for within the ‘reasoning’ framework.

 

From Rustam Vania

Life is an emotional response. So is learning. Primarily. For that, I guess I need to follow my heart. So why does school concentrate on my head? The easy task is to learn, the more difficult task is to unlearn! It’s the latter that I find intriguing and challenging.

 

From Carol Schwinn

My most important learning/unlearning is the ongoing lesson of giving up control & acting from the inner guidance of spirit.

 

From Anita Borkar

One and a half decades of working with various groups, including children, parents, teachers, farmers and women in the villages, on initiatives to understand and facilitate human communication, I have been enriched by their wisdom and ways of learning. Growing with my ten-year young daughter Sakhi has taught me in abundance about nuances of life and living and a constant reminder that learning is indeed a continuous and joyful process, more so in an environment of trust and mutual respect.

 

From Jan Visser

*  THE HUMAN BODY is the most important organ for human learning. This contradicts a number of popular assumptions such as the claim that learning takes place inside the brain. Obviously, the brain plays an important role, but it can only do so by being integrated in the body as a whole. It is thanks to our entire bodies that we are able to explore other such bodies and in general the world around us. It’s what allows us to engage in dialogic behavior. The disposition to do so is what I call learning.

 

From Sumi-Chandresh

i am in process of understanding life and living with understanding... through singing, playing flute/ harmonium/dafli, playing with children, growing with qudrat and sumi (my son and life partner), acting, being with nature, sitting in silence, making new relations, writing/reading/ painting...

 

From Bliss Browne

So learning has always been to me like breathing...a generative dialogue in which what we already understand is reordered and expanded by the encounter with new ideas, perspectives and experiences that open us to life and reveal and develop our own capacities.  By keeping an open mind and heart, I bump into the fullness of life in ways that are disturbing and joyful, that reveal my personal and cultural limitations. Learning involves risk taking, so I prefer to do it in community with others who are open to the unknown, and deepen courage to encounter the mystery of life without fear.

 

From Ravi Gulati

I think one of the most meaningful unlearning and learning (and aren’t the two always together! To use a Hindu analogy, Siva, the destroyer, is worshipped in the form of the linga, a symbol of creation) of mine has been the realization that there’s no escaping ‘doing’ in order to move on the path of ‘understanding’. At the risk of making mistakes, even terrible ones sometimes, we can never wait for a total understanding to dawn first, before we begin to play our role in this mysterious world in which we find ourselves.

 

Where Is Learning? When Do We Learn?

From Jan Visser

Perhaps the most serious problem with schooling as we know it is the monopolistic hold that the idea of schooling has acquired, over time, on people’s thinking about learning, resulting in the generic perception that ‘learning is what you do in school,’ thus implying that learning is the result of instruction and nothing else.

 

From Nitin Paranjape

This state wouldn’t have happened if I hadn’t spotted it moving near my feet. No sooner that I saw the tiny rat moving about my apartment than I took a broom and hit it savagely. My ten year old daughter Sakhi shrieked at the sight and asked me whether I had killed the poor creature. I don’t know whether the rat was killed but I managed to have the situation under my control. It was only after it was over that I started feeling miserable... Many awkward questions passed through my mind. Did I do the right thing? Why did the rat’s presence disturb me? Couldn’t I accommodate its presence in my house?  ...suddenly, I find myself in a different mood. Sad, miserable and wretched. Also, reflective. We pass through so many different emotional states, yet what we present to the outside world is masked, and is some type of a constant. Our each moment is rich, different and is an opportunity to experience, discover and learn. Am I in touch with it all the time?

 

From Sugandhi Baliga

Let me share one of my experiences when I played a game: Each of us were given certain tasks to perform in the whole group. I received the task of grabbing notes from others. As soon as the time began, I was so unconsciously following the instructions that I did not know why was I following the instruction without even questioning what is the purpose of this game…. While grabbing, I also realised I was getting violent if there was resistance from the other side. Violence is so deep rooted in me, that it does not seem to be coming across very consciously but while engaging with the community with a specific goal, my values were emerging so clearly. I was stunned at myself for that kind of behaviour in the group.

 

From Susanne Schnuttgen

We are trying to share our learning/un-learning experiences, but I realized that my most important ones are very intimate and personal, almost sacred... They unfolded in my relations with people I love and care about, with situations and challenges that I never expected to be confronted with. They involved situations where logic does not take you very far, where you need to trust that things will move on and eventually for the better. Stories about human learning are stories about hope, love and creativity. They are part of our process of losing our innocence and discovering new dimensions of life and our relations to the people and the world around us.

 

From Yusef Progler

Unlearning... I am still trying to figure out how I learned all that stuff that needs to be unlearned! That has to be part of our work, too, I think, identifying those pervasive sorts of daily life lessons that are reinforced in myriad ways by family, friends, society, media. But my earliest unlearning experiences were visceral and emotional, not intellectual. I was alienated from school and church at a very early age, they just didn’t feel like places I wanted to be. Various incidents of personal violence targeting my perceived identity, real or imagined, sensitized me to racial hatred. Misguided teaching reforms in grade school turned me away from reading, and so I spent a lot of time in non-literary endeavors, like art and music.

 

From Lisa Aubrey

To cope in this rat race with so many concurrent “isms” that are literally killing us — globalism, neo-liberalism, “free” market capitalism, Bush’s terrorism, imperialism, even some ngo-ism — so many of us take refuge in our professional selves (our “external identity” — thanks Zainab) and somehow “flip the script.”  I use the classroom to work out my frustrations against these “isms”... I am a cog in a university system-yes, and I also use the classroom to call for resistance to that very system of schooling/learning.  I am constantly unlearning what I learned in much of graduate school, and I am trying to offer the students alternative perspectives to an otherwise “liberal” education.  One might say that I am trying to use the master’s tool to destroy the master’s house (I am borrowing from Audre Lourde here.  She’s would say that I can’t destroy the master’s house in this way).

 

From Coumba Toure

There is a saying in Bamanan, “everyday our ears go to the learning house”. It means whether or not we want, we learn everyday new things... I learn being part of the student and youth movements in Senegal, working with international women organizations, working with the Institute for Popular Education in Kati Mali, writing novels, poetry, supporting my family and my friends to fight injustices, traveling in different part of the world, Africa Asia Latin America North America Europe — these are my learning places.

 

From Arif Tabassum

Loralai is culturally a very rich area, its folk literature; local cultural values etc. are full of energy that generates collectivism, mutual accountability, learning and interdependency. The learning processes in these communities were rooted in their culture and agriculture. These two factors of their life were providing opportunities of mutual learning and interdependency to them. We can say these communities were learning communities, the spaces of agricultural farms, mosque, baitak, nasta, mailmastia, indigenous sports and day to day interactions among them were learning spaces. In these spaces each and every community member participates and learns from other’s experiences. These spaces were rich sources of knowledge sharing and skills learning...

 

From Zaid Hassan

Might it be possible to envision all of England, from its abandoned coal mines to its inner cities as being the raw architecture of a learning space or of a web of learning spaces? Where every form of organisation is an invitation to young and enquiring minds to grow like free crystals instead of being forced to grow in one particular direction or the other? It’s a possibility.

 

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“The unlearning process I am involved in is intended to scrub off the western influence that I had gathered through the years of “learning “in the alienating environs of some of the elitist institutions in the country. From early on, I had instinctively realized that working with the culturally rooted rural and tribal artisans would be the best way to reclaim the self. Working with and being part of the rural and tribal folks was the only way to de-colonize oneself. Thus I began working very closely with different artisan communities beginning with the Ao-tribe of Mokukchung district of Nagaland. Since then, I have interacted with many artisan communities in Bengal, Orrisa, Bihar and Tamilnadu, practicing various crafts like Pottery, Brass, Kantha Embroidery, Bamboo, Stone, and Horn etc.”

KB Jinan

 

 

“Some of the things I have unlearnt during this time: that the only way to be prepared for the future is to plan out exactly what you’re going to do well in advance; that my education would be completed in university and professional training courses in the years immediately after; that there is one objective truth in all cases, which, with enough research and enquiry, would become apparent to any person who thought logically.”

Alok Singh

 

 

“I have tried to find meaning of my name. In my mother tongue, Mandar can be divided into Man-Dar. Man in Marathi means “Mind” and dar means “door”. Mandar: door to the mind. I am engaged in networking in our north Maharashtra region, working with grassroots groups on local issues of agriculture, land and women’s empowerment. I am participating with three network partners, namely, Sarang Pandey of Lok Panchyat, Vilas Shinde of Lok Bharti and Sunil Pote from Yuva Mitra.

Mandar Vaidya

 

“What a learning society is... For me, the key is motivation. To start with individuals, it is certainly true to say that any being that is alive is a learner, because it is impossible to exist without constantly learning something – negative, positive, neutral.”

Sylvia Lee

 

“My own questions have to do with the possibilities for deep transformation in educational processes—I still hold out some hope that it’s possible and look for examples.   I want to know how education can help build more peaceful societies, and how we can find new ways of understanding how societies are supporting constructive learning ecologies.  Paradoxically, I’m doing research about putting life in boxes. I’m trying to figure out — in the teeth of Shilpa’s critique about indicators — how to develop alternative indicators for learning and peacebuilding, starting from a framework of fundamental human needs and inspired by the notions of learning societies and learning ecologies.”

Vachel Miller

 

 

“It is better to walk 1 km than reading 100 books — to learn.”

Smriti Sinha

 

 

“Today whatever I am good at, I don’t feel like to give its credit to my schools. Theatre, trekking, mountaineering, badminton, writing, photography, folk dance etc etc, my schools were never interested in these things or they could not show me the way I needed.”

Subhash Rawat

 

 

“My life and learning span nearly seven decades, four continents, two broad academic disciplines, geography and education, and immeasurable amount of experience, reading, listening, viewing and reflection. I am also a teacher with faith in and some flair for dialogue. This has contributed infinitely to my learning before, during and after each engagement.” 

Kishore Saint

 

“When I was a political activist my perception was that the culture and religion are the core obstacle of progress and we have to overcome this by throwing out it, for the development the society should adopt modern principals then it will be developed. But when I learned that how the culture could be a source of collective reflection, learning and reconnecting the society to nature. How the world religions can contribute to bring back the humanity to its origin and soul. Now my efforts are to interact with communities in a learning discourse on the concepts of development, change and culture.”

Shah Jahan Baloch

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The Parrot’s Training

Once upon a time there was a bird. It was ignorant. It sang all right, but never recited scriptures. It hopped pretty frequently, but lacked manners. Said the Raja to himself: ‘Ignorance is costly in the long run. For fools consume as much food as their betters, and yet give nothing in return.’

 

He called his nephews to his presence and told them that the bird must have a sound schooling. The pundits were summoned, and at once went to the root of the matter. They decided that the ignorance of birds was due to their natural habit of living in poor nests. Therefore, according to the pundits, the first thing necessary for this bird’s education was a suitable cage.  The pundits had their rewards and went home happy.

 

A golden cage was built with gorgeous decorations. Crowds came to see it from all parts of the world. ‘Culture, captured and caged!’ exclaimed some, in a rapture of ecstasy, and burst into tears. Others remarked: ‘Even if culture be missed, the cage will remain, to the end, a substantial fact. How fortunate for the bird!’ The goldsmith filled his bag with money and lost no tune in sailing homewards.

 

The pundit sat down to educate the bird. With proper deliberation he took his pinch of snug: as he said: ‘Textbooks can never be too many for our purpose!’ The nephews brought together an enormous crowd of scribes. They copied from books, and copied from copies, till the manuscripts were piled up to an unreachable height. Men murmured in amazement. ‘Oh, the tower of culture, egregiously high! The end of it lost in the clouds!’  The scribes, with light hearts, hurried home, their pockets heavily laden.

 

The nephews were furiously busy keeping the cage in proper trim. As their constant scrubbing and polishing went on, the people said with satisfaction: ‘This is progress indeed!’  Men were employed in large numbers and supervisors were still more numerous. These, with their cousins of all different degrees of distance, built a palace for themselves and lived there happily ever after.

 

Whatever may be its other deficiencies, the world is never in want of fault-finders; and they went about saying that every creature remotely connected with the cage flourished beyond words, excepting only the bird. When this remark reached the Raja’s ears, he summoned his nephews before him and said: ‘My dear nephews, what is this that we hear?’ The nephews said in answer: ‘Sire, let the testimony of the goldsmiths and the pundits, the scribes and the supervisors be taken, if the truth is to be known. Food is scarce with the fault-finders, and that is why their tongues have gained in sharpness.’  The explanation was so luminously satisfactory that the Raja decorated each one of his nephews with his own rare jewels.

 

The Raja at length, being desirous of seeing with his own eyes how his Education Department busied itself with the little bird, made his appearance one day at the great Hall of Learning. From the gate rose the sounds of conch-shells and gongs, horns, bugles and trumpets, cymbals, drums and kettledrums, tomtoms, tambourines, flutes, fifes, barrel-organs and bagpipes. The pundits began chanting mantras with their topmost voices, while the goldsmiths, scribes, supervisors, and their numberless cousins of all different degrees of distance, loudly raised a round of cheers.

 

The nephews smiled and said: ‘Sire, what do you think of it all?’   The Raja said: ‘It does seem so fearfully like a sound principle of Education!’ Mightily pleased, the Raja was about to remount his elephant, when the fault-finder, from behind some bush, cried out: ‘Maharaja, have you seen the bird?’

 

‘Indeed, I have not!’ exclaimed the Raja. ‘I completely forgot about the bird.’ Turning back, he asked the pundits about the method they followed in instructing the bird. It was shown to him. He was immensely impressed. The method was so stupendous that the bird looked ridiculously unimportant in comparison. The Raja was satisfied that there was no flaw in the arrangements. As for any complaint from the bird itself, that simply could not be expected. Its throat was so completely choked with the leaves from the books that it could neither whistle nor whisper. It sent a thrill through one’s body to watch the process.

 

This time, while remounting his elephant, the Raja ordered his State ear-puller to give a thorough good pull at both the ears of the fault-finder. The bird thus crawled on, duly and properly, to the safest verge of inanity. In fact, its progress was satisfactory in the extreme. Nevertheless, Nature occasionally triumphed over training, and when the morning light peeped into the bird’s cage it sometimes fluttered its wings in a reprehensible manner. And, though it is hard to believe, it pitifully pecked at its bars with its feeble beak.

 

‘What impertinence!’ growled the kotwal. The blacksmith, with his forge and hammer, took his place in the Raja’s Department of Education. Oh, what resounding blows! The iron chain was soon completed, and the bird’s wings were clipped. The Raja’s brothers-in-law looked black, and shook their heads, saying: ‘These birds not only lack good sense, but also gratitude!’ With text-book in one hand and baton in the other, the pundits gave the poor bird what may fitly be called lessons! The kotwal was honoured with a title for his watchfulness, and the blacksmith for his skill in forging chains.

 

The bird died.

 

Nobody had the least notion how long ago this had happened. The fault-finder was the first man to spread the rumour. The Raja called his nephews and asked them, ‘My dear nephews, what is this that we hear?’ The nephews said: ‘Sire, the bird’s education has been completed.’

 

‘Does it hop?’ the Raja enquired.

‘Never!’ said the nephews.

‘Does it fly?’

‘No.’

‘Bring me the bird,’ said the Raja.

 

The bird was brought to him, guarded by the kotwal and the sepoys and the sowars. The Raja poked its body with his finger. Only its inner stuffing of book-leaves rustled.

 

Outside the window, the murmur of the spring breeze amongst the newly budded asoka leaves made the April morning wistful.

- Rabindranath Tagore

(shared by Shilpa Jain)

 

REFLECTIONS ON SCHOOLING

 

From Norman Longworth

Where, I ask myself, did the pure joy I experience when listening to and understanding great music come from? In my culture that would be Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart and countless other composers whose contribution to human happiness is beyond price. Where, equally, does the facility to understand and enjoy a Shakespeare play, or appreciate the beauty of language used by Wordsworth, Byron and a thousand other poets come from? Where does my great love of history, geography, art, travel, science and literature originate?

 

I think that it comes from great teachers who did not impose their thoughts upon me but who opened the doors of perception and allowed me to walk inside and experience the treasure within. Those teachers were in the schools I went to… ‘teaching’ for me is not the imposition of another’s ideas or knowledge, but the expert opening up of the mind and the intellect to allow it to take in the understanding, beauty and wisdom of our passage on this earth.  Perhaps the problem is not the school, but the stifling system which puts teachers into the position of information brokers within artificially fragmented subject areas.

 

From Arif Tabassum

In our communities we have thousands of examples of personalities and as well as of communities which are never even entered in the school but they know history, geography, literature, astronomy and many other natural and social sciences very well than many schooled and ‘educated’ people.  Do you think that the sense of competition, fear of grading, burden of homework, tension of exams, keeping children in fear of punishment and greed of rewards that take place in schools, can produce great thinkers, practitioners and challenging personalities in our societies?

 

From Jan Visser

Perhaps the most serious problem with schooling as we know it is the monopolistic hold that the idea of schooling has acquired, over time, on people’s thinking about learning, resulting in the generic perception that ‘learning is what you do in school,’ thus implying that learning is the result of instruction and nothing else.  Deschooling, in my view, is not doing away with the school. It’s doing away with a suffocating mindset about the school and then reconsidering how human learning can best be facilitated in whatever settings (including some that we may continue to call school), by whatever means, for multiple purposes, and driven by the concern to explore learning in its fullest richness.

 

From Subhash Raawat

Went through Norman’s views and then the counter-views of Arif, Zaid and Jan. It has raised questions for myself as I also have all sweet memories of my school days. Could those days be sweeter? If there are people who know that the sweetest thing in the world is roti (bread), is it possible to make them understand the sweetness of deschooling? I am bound to think why I am satisfied with my school-days? Did I, rather my parents, have smaller dreams? Are the dreams smaller and bigger? If my mother’s dream is limited to the happiness of her family what’s wrong with it? If my chacha (father’s brother), who lives in small hill village, feels that he is happy without knowing much about the world and satisfied with being only literate, so what?

 

From Sudhir Pattnaik

Since most of us have come out of the same or similar systems of education of which we have become critical now and therefore, are seeking alternatives, there is a need to learn form the originals who have never taken part in any so called systems of education. We need to reflect also on how these people are defining ‘learning’, ‘schooling’ and ‘education’. For the last 12-13 years I have been frequently visiting areas where these originals live in and I have felt how wisdom lives there eternally… the real teachers in my life have been the ‘unschooled’ ones who have never come anywhere nearer to the so called systems of education.

 

From KB Jinan

In the present technological culture, the notion of knowledge has shifted the center of knowledge from Nature to human, from collective to ego, from heart to intellect/mind, from intuition to reason, from experience to information, from holistic to compartmental. The effects of the modern education on the individual are compartmentalization, alienation, boredom, intellectualization, conceptualization, etc. The larger and more dangerous effects of modern education on the planet are that we have destroyed its ecosystems, finished non-renewable wealth, made extinct many animals, plants, etc.…

 

The worst pollution is the pollution of words and concepts and books. Knowledge evolved out of experience is meaningful and is within the context of living. But the concepts created from abstraction are endless and most often meaningless. Deeper and authentic experience can evolve deeper knowledge.  Anthropo-centered or euro-centered knowledge cannot become holistic. Only by accessing the nature’s knowledge, which is accessed by all life forms, can there be holistic knowing. The only way to access this knowledge is to de-intellectualize and listen deeply and honestly to our inner being.  Holistic knowledge is not a matter of more information, sensitive or otherwise. What is required is a qualitative change from within.

 

From Coumba Toure

When there was no school, did people learn?  What did they learn?  How did they learn it?  If we close down all the schools and universities today will people continue to learn? ... Today if there are many places in the world where there is no school - I know particularly in many villages in West Africa.  I know there is a strong movement of educators working to fix that problem.  But I am working and trying to find out what are the alternatives we could create and start implementing before schools get to those places, because I see the lack of schools as a big opportunity for alternatives in education.

 

From Vivek Bhandari

My own experience as someone who grew up studying in Indian schools, and is now teaching in a university in the US is that the problem is, in fact, schooling. The reason for this is that historically, the only we can talk about modern schooling is by juxtaposing it—in the most intimate fashion—with other institutions that, over the modern period, have emerged to discipline and “order” the lives of people around the world while simultaneously undermining significant areas of learning that shaped the lives of people.

 

Schooling, to me, is one part of the larger network of institutions that play a role in shaping us as “modern subjects”—as people who have internalized the attributes and attitudes one expects in “rational,” “democratic,” “individuals.” It seems, to me at least, that each one these three concepts is defined in a particularly narrow way, in a way that is largely oblivious to the complexity that dynamism that shapes our social world. In other words, I suspect that the issues that most of us are articulating in our critique of education require a deeper engagement with the “school’s” location within the larger matrix of institutions (the state, corporations, educational establishments...) that structure it.

 

From Lisa Aubrey

To fall into the dichotomy of “formal school or not” or “school or de-school” is to buy into the simplistic paradigmatic mode of thought of global mainstream governing ideologies—developed vs underdeveloped, Global North vs Global South, democracy vs dictatorship, civilized vs uncivilized, etc. This dichotomy is simply too rigid, and at a rudimentary level, artificial. The “schooling” problems and alternatives are more multi-dimensioned, layered, complex, circuituitous than this simple dichotomy suggests.  For me, it is only because I have both a textured, loving, knowledgeable (in many ways traditional) bayou Creole culture AND formal schooling that I am who I am. I could not have gotten one from the other. I critique my being book-long, but I would not change it.

 

From  Barkat Shah

It is also a point of consideration to reflect the diverse experimentation of institutionalised learning in past. Whether it is a problem with the institutional manifestation of learning or institutionalisation of learning? I think learning being a spontaneous process should be free from all institutional bonds.  But liberating the learning form the institutional framework is not an easy job. At this point I am not agreed with apparently subversive connotation of “De-schooling”. Because it is an utmost statement not giving room for the dialogue or finding the alternative operational possibilities of transforming the schools into social learning spaces.

 

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“Had I the opportunity to be with you, I would have loved to share the experience of my son who is schooling in France in a bilingual and quite an elitist school. He left school to travel with us to India at the age of 8. For a year he home schooled and travelled extensively with his father while I was busy trying to get Liberate School going. On our return from India, he had to get back to school which is compulsory in France and besides he was very eagerly looking forward to it.

 

The dilemma the kid (and parents!!!) went through the following year is a long and interesting story. He is not sure he likes school but does not admit he dislikes it. He questions what the teachers had to say. He wants to be there but not really! He does prefer having a teacher explaining things to him and did not really like his father changing roles to become his teacher at the same time, but finally he prefers his father explaining a few things to him and so on. When time permits, I will try to write it one day. However, one issue seems interesting to explore would be the children’s experiences about schooling and life with real life stories of children.”

Sheela Pimpare

 

 

“I have been associated with peoples movement and also worked to promote constructive asset building for the communities. My interest is in participatory training, I am also interested in writing. I feel I have been creative in life, many persons have contributed in my growth. Many times I am an introvert person, I have selective friends. I relate comfortably with a person who are reflective and genuine in their approach.  I have not thought concretely about my future but there is an urge to associate with nature, agriculture.”

Mohan Surve

 

 

“I work at a very special primary school which gives “arts education”. It is one of the schools that give more freedom to teach and learn in my country. But there are many things, practices, ideas  that just don’t fit in the formal education. Formal education stops me from breathing. Where can I work if I want to accompany learning processes and do not want to convince anyone to believe anything?”

Maria Rortiz

 

 

“I am with those who reflect that the issue of schools or not schools, deschooling or reformed schooling quite misses the point. As everyone in this dialogue is aware, the term schooling is used as metaphore for much that is dehumanizing, despiritualizing in our contemporary societies. But the discussion about learning and unlearning is the more central issue - and that itself reflects our beliefs about ourselves, our relationships and the universe.”

Ash Hartwell

 

 

“My greatest passion is around the idea of ‘learning democracy,’ the topic of a piece we did in Manish’s most recent publication. In all of this work, the pattern has been:

1. Working in a loving and learningful, co-creative partnership with my husband, David.

2. Taking theory to practice and making it accessible for use where people live.

3. Developing an ever-wider conception of the place I call home.

4. Deepening my understanding of what it is that is calling for the gifts the universe has bestowed on me.”

Carole Schwinn

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REDEFINING GURU

 

In one of the Upanishads comes the story of a boy going to his guru and asking him: “Will you please teach me what is the nature of Reality? Will you teach me please what is the essence of Life, the meaning of Life, all the knowledge in your books?” The guru says: “I would love to help you, but look I am very old and I have these 200 cows. I need your help. They used to live in the forest. Would you take them away from the place that I am living, enter the deep forest, find a place where you will feel comfortable and live there till the 200 cows become 1000. While they are becoming 1000, you have to observe, interact with, and listen to everything that happens around you. Come back with the 1000 cows, then we shall see about your learning.”

 

And the Upanishads proceeds to disclose how the young boy with 200 weak and lean cows goes far off into the forest having trusted the words of the sage. He lived there, nurturing the cows and being nurtured by them. For the process to be successful, he had to explore, dialogue and be with Nature. Over time, he started to understand the movement of the sun, the moon, the stars, the rivers, the trees, the birds, the living and growing patterns of the cows, the intelligence that they express. For him learning, working, playing and being/becoming became one.

 

And the Upanishad proceeds to tell us that when the young man went back to the guru’s place with 1000 cows, his entire being radiated with the light of deep understanding. He was joyful, his face glowing, his eyes full of an inner peace and bliss. And the guru said: “Congratulations, you have learnt by yourself.”

(shared by Manish Jain)

 

 

Who are the inspirations in our lives?

From: Zaid Hassan

Typical teacher-student relationships are characterised by a power imbalance, that is, one has the knowledge, the other doesn’t and requires the help of the teacher to acquire it. It isn’t as if these relationships must necessarily involve a power imbalance, but rather we have accepted this imbalance for too long... how to build learning relationships that are not characterised by the power imbalance that almost always characterises learning from an ‘expert’ and that makes me wonder why we are so quick to give away this label of ‘expert’ to so many.

 

From: Maria Rortiz

My father is a very good “learning company” to me. From time to time we meet and we talk about the last things I learned, we discuss and reflect about them, we try to see in what point of my process I am, sometimes he tells me where can I find out more about something, who I could talk to. Then we say good bye and it is like after that I know what I want to read, what I want to explore more… if we see what one of the best “contributors” of my learning process does, is listen.

 

From: Lisa Aubrey

Bob Marley helped me to understand, to begin to (un)learn.  I remember hearing Buffalo Soldier in Serowe, Botswana—I mean really hearing it, and of course Redemption Song.  And I (un)learned more when I worked as volunteer with Crossroads Africa (an NGO) in Lesotho, hearing that Peter Tosh refused to play in Sun (Sin) City in South Africa in protest against apartheid.  He blasted the apartheid regime. Something inside of me clicked, connected.

 

From: Yusuf Progler

I had the good fortune of several nurturing teachers, including master musicians, Muslim scholars and Native American elders. They taught me to name the experiences I had, and to turn my disaffections into something constructive, lessons which I am trying to develop in my own teaching and writing, passing them on in whatever ways I can.

 

From: Vachel Miller

The big teacher in my life weighs about 10 kg and speaks his own indigenous language.  His name is Galen, and he’s our 8-month old son.  My wife Sarah and I are sharing the adventure of parenthood.  It’s an amazing learning adventure, one that is challenging and changing my identity.  We make up songs and look into each other’s eyes.  He likes to grab my glasses, pull them off my face, and chew on them.  A message, perhaps, that it’s less important to be reading books than being in direct contact with him, with the spontaneous and playful energy of life.

 

From: Zainab Bawa

I have come to realize that experience is the best teacher and that we can internalize some of life’s most critical lessons when we have direct experiences. Also, if we have to effect changes in the system, sometimes, it is important to be in the system and see how your contemporaries and colleagues are receiving it. I have also come to realize that even within the system, there are teachers who are understanding the importance of questioning and critical examination which they try to promote through their teaching methods.

 

From: Jan Visser

As a student of theoretical physics I was, for several years, half of a community of two: a friend of mine and I. We used to get together (we lived in different cities, a short distance apart) once or twice a week, for lengthy periods of time, at times going on well into the night, doing physics. Though the community was small, it’s one of my most vivid recollections of how valuable community (and thus dialogue) is.  Making music together with others, particularly at the level of a small ensemble like a quartet or a trio, I found to be an equally fascinating experience of learning together.

 

From: Yusef Progler<